Musk: Twitter will consult civil rights groups before restoring any banned users.
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Musk meets with critics, says Twitter won’t restore banned users before election
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I am an avid proponent of the notion that cynicism is not equivalent to wisdom, but I also know not to repeatedly touch a hot stove. I give it about a 50/50 shot that Musk is true to his word.
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I'd like to point out here that what Musk says should be seen as strictly aspirational (to be generous). Just to take one example from the last few days, see his change of heart on how much Twitter's blue check mark is going to cost.
The only thing that matters is what he does. I'd rather we focus on what Musk is doing instead of what he's saying.
The only thing that matters is what he does. I'd rather we focus on what Musk is doing instead of what he's saying.
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Problem is, he's already intervened. Mark Finchem, a candidate for AZ Sec of State, had his ban overturned this week.
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Wait, is this good or bad?
Republicans can continue to complain about being "silenced" and conspired against to fuel manufactured outrage right up until the election.
OTOH, bringing them back will bring all the hate speech, misinformation and conspiracy theories into the mainstream channels.
It's something of a lose-lose situation, but at least we don't have to hear their screeching on Twitter for another week or so.
Republicans can continue to complain about being "silenced" and conspired against to fuel manufactured outrage right up until the election.
OTOH, bringing them back will bring all the hate speech, misinformation and conspiracy theories into the mainstream channels.
It's something of a lose-lose situation, but at least we don't have to hear their screeching on Twitter for another week or so.
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"he (Elon) promised that any replatforming following the election will involve a transparent process."
Great, so they'll set up a fax machine that dumps straight into a trash can and then replatform as they wish.
Edit: Am I the only one who sees this as double-speak for pretending to "care"?
Great, so they'll set up a fax machine that dumps straight into a trash can and then replatform as they wish.
Edit: Am I the only one who sees this as double-speak for pretending to "care"?
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Musk has major maturity issues - too many to be considered a reliable source of information.
He's lied about his intentions in the past. He changes his mind more often than a traffic signal changes lights. He's just not stable enough to rely on his word as being worth a fuck.
As others have said, actions speak louder than words.
Musk has reduced staff by at least 25%, restricted 90% of the content moderation teams from accessing their tools (just before a major election), and his "words" (which have zero value or meaning) have driven tens of millions of users toward a "wait and see" mode, and tens of millions more are either restricting use or dumping their accounts.
Those are the actions Musk has initiated or caused.
I really don't know why Musk bothers to talk about what he's going to do with the company. He's already got his foot so far down his throat he has to untie his shoe to take a shit. He'd do better if he shut the fuck up and just did what he was going to do without trying to announce it to the world.
But I don't think he's emotionally capable of doing that.
He's lied about his intentions in the past. He changes his mind more often than a traffic signal changes lights. He's just not stable enough to rely on his word as being worth a fuck.
As others have said, actions speak louder than words.
Musk has reduced staff by at least 25%, restricted 90% of the content moderation teams from accessing their tools (just before a major election), and his "words" (which have zero value or meaning) have driven tens of millions of users toward a "wait and see" mode, and tens of millions more are either restricting use or dumping their accounts.
Those are the actions Musk has initiated or caused.
I really don't know why Musk bothers to talk about what he's going to do with the company. He's already got his foot so far down his throat he has to untie his shoe to take a shit. He'd do better if he shut the fuck up and just did what he was going to do without trying to announce it to the world.
But I don't think he's emotionally capable of doing that.
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And $4.99/month subscription fee to maintain unbanned status. Unbanned Platinum will run $8.99/month.
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His wasn't a lifetime ban or de-platforming. I never could find what got him banned in the first place.
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"Pay-to-Say" is a per-tweet fee. "Pay-to-Stay" is a monthly subscription.
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Well, I'm sure business/profits were part of this calculus.
If all the advertisers abandon Twitter, it will go from unprofitable to even less profitable.
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Except Musk already reinstated one guy who was banned. Forget the specific reason he was banned, but then he went on the typical "woke deep state censorship" tirade on Facebook and enough people tagged Musk that he ordered the ban be reversed.
Edit: Looks like Kevin Lowe beat me to it and had the name of the person. So, anyway, his promise has already been broken and shown to be total bullshit.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ar ... suspension
Edit: Looks like Kevin Lowe beat me to it and had the name of the person. So, anyway, his promise has already been broken and shown to be total bullshit.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ar ... suspension
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Like I said before, the only way he can salvage Twitter is by breaking his promise to allow all legal speech. Allowing extremists to run amuck will drive away regular people, celebrities, and advertisers.
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But it isn't; those people are peddling bullshit and lies. So your hypothetical is irrelevant.
Because what we need are more questions like "The Jewish Question". All Questions Matter, right?
And now we have self-proclaimed fascists like Matt Walsh spreading fascism. So that worked out really well, didn't it?
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But but but what about free speech? What about being allowed to say anything, anything at all that the law does not explicitly forbid?
I am thinking the advertisers pulling out is hitting Musk much closer to his nerves than the recipients of abuse and violence asking him to search his soul for the pilot light of goodness they hope is still burning there.
Free speech absolutism is a lot less appealing when you're the one that stands to lose because of it.
I am thinking the advertisers pulling out is hitting Musk much closer to his nerves than the recipients of abuse and violence asking him to search his soul for the pilot light of goodness they hope is still burning there.
Free speech absolutism is a lot less appealing when you're the one that stands to lose because of it.
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Looks like the freeze peach assholeflutists are here to lecture us about Skokie again.
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I mean... Something Awful already figured out how to monetize unbanning people, so he's 20 years late to the game.
Yes, let's just unban a man who supported something so racist that even Quillette called him out on it or thinks that LGBTQ educators are "groomers".
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Shitposting on Twitter is a well-known civil liberty. I hear the UN might even elevate it to their declared list of human rights.
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I think the calculus here is pretty simple (Occam's Razor and all that). Musk walked in talking a great game about free speech and bans but now that he's tens-of-billions deep on this acquisition he has a sudden, mysterious desire to turn his new purchase profitable. As it turns out that requires both advertisers and users to be on-board with your policies. Surprising no one, the course of action that keeps those groups onboard is eerily similar to the one taken by the previous executives - it is as if they, too, had a financial reason to make the platform profitable and had been thinking about how to do that for literally years.
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Elon, like many of his ilk, is loose with his mouth and doesn't put much effort into having a consistent message. So to try to take his word at anything is futile.
In the end, however, he is a businessman. He spent $44B buying Twitter and he owns it now. He is not going to let it go down the toilet for shits and giggles. I suspect things will be slightly more nuanced from now on, if not close to ideal.
Don't forget that Twitter was not the amazing platform that people with short term memory think it is. It had tons of issues and had completely dysfunctional management who were pulled every which direction by the shareholders. Now that it's under private ownership, at least it has a sliver of a chance to overcome those problems. But only IF Elon can have a coherent vision. Let's hope his advisors are more clear headed than he is.
In the end, however, he is a businessman. He spent $44B buying Twitter and he owns it now. He is not going to let it go down the toilet for shits and giggles. I suspect things will be slightly more nuanced from now on, if not close to ideal.
Don't forget that Twitter was not the amazing platform that people with short term memory think it is. It had tons of issues and had completely dysfunctional management who were pulled every which direction by the shareholders. Now that it's under private ownership, at least it has a sliver of a chance to overcome those problems. But only IF Elon can have a coherent vision. Let's hope his advisors are more clear headed than he is.
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